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Lisa L
Posted: March.16.2010 at 1:18pm | IP Logged Quote Lisa L

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So who is filling out the entire census?  Including names, birthdates?

 



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Based on the Civil Rights Act of 1964 it is against the law for a potential employer to ask many of the same questions being asked on the Census. 

Per our U.S.Constitution, our gov't is charged with enumerating the citizens every ten years.  How many people for purposes of drawing congressional districts ... but all the other stuff.

I recall only supplying number of people and ages in our household in the 1990 Census.

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Include this note in your reply:

Pursuant to Article I, Section 2, Clause 3 of the Constitution, the only information you are empowered to request is the total number of occupants at this address. My “name, sex, age, date of birth, race, ethnicity, telephone number, relationship and housing tenure” have absolutely nothing to do with apportioning direct taxes or determining the number of representatives in the House of Representatives. Therefore, neither Congress nor the Census Bureau have the constitutional authority to make that information request a component of the enumeration outlined in Article I, Section 2, Clause 3. In addition, I cannot be subject to a fine for basing my conduct on the Constitution because that document trumps laws passed by Congress.

Interstate Commerce Commission v. Brimson, 154 U.S. 447, 479 (May 26, 1894)

“Neither branch of the legislative department [House of Representatives or Senate], still less any merely administrative body [such as the Census Bureau], established by congress, possesses, or can be invested with, a general power of making inquiry into the private affairs of the citizen. Kilbourn v. Thompson, 103 U.S. 168, 190. We said in Boyd v. U.S., 116 U. S. 616, 630, 6 Sup. Ct. 524,¯and it cannot be too often repeated,¯that the principles that embody the essence of constitutional liberty and security forbid all invasions on the part of government and it’s employees of the sanctity of a man’s home and the privacies of his life.

As said by Mr. Justice Field in Re Pacific Ry. Commission, 32 Fed. 241, 250, ‘of all the rights of the citizen, few are of greater importance or more essential to his peace and happiness than the right of personal security, and that involves, not merely protection of his person from assault, but exemption of his private affairs, books, and papers from inspection and scrutiny of others. Without the enjoyment of this right, all others would lose half their value.’”

 

 
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Thanks Scott!

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I just filled out number of people in the household and dropped it in the mailbox.
 
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I filled out the full amount of info.  I am told that in some cases they use the census info to help plan for future growth of schools and items like that.  Such as they may track the number of kids under 5 to help plan if more school spaces may be needed in the next few years.

 

 
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I recieved mine and I filled out all the information, which was not much at all. Please reconsider filling in all the information. I have been researching my family history and my husbands family history for several years now. The census has given me a look at who was living in the house, their ages, etc.  It would have been almost impossible to trace the families without the census.
 
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I gave all info. except phone number.

 

 



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bandmom06 wrote:

I filled out the full amount of info.  I am told that in some cases they use the census info to help plan for future growth of schools and items like that.  Such as they may track the number of kids under 5 to help plan if more school spaces may be needed in the next few years.


 



That I totally understand but when my census form came it was addressed city>> Lewisville. Are we, The Colony, going to loose out on anything because we are considered Lewisville?

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Holly's Mom, I wondered that too - we also apparently live in Lewisville.


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bandmom06 wrote:

I filled out the full amount of info.  I am told that in some cases they use the census info to help plan for future growth of schools and items like that.  Such as they may track the number of kids under 5 to help plan if more school spaces may be needed in the next few years.

Perhaps number of persons living here, year they were born and I think that might it for us.

 



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Include this note in your reply:

Pursuant to Article I, Section 2, Clause 3 of the Constitution, the only information you are empowered to request is the total number of occupants at this address. My “name, sex, age, date of birth, race, ethnicity, telephone number, relationship and housing tenure” have absolutely nothing to do with apportioning direct taxes or determining the number of representatives in the House of Representatives. Therefore, neither Congress nor the Census Bureau have the constitutional authority to make that information request a component of the enumeration outlined in Article I, Section 2, Clause 3. In addition, I cannot be subject to a fine for basing my conduct on the Constitution because that document trumps laws passed by Congress.

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“Neither branch of the legislative department [House of Representatives or Senate], still less any merely administrative body [such as the Census Bureau], established by congress, possesses, or can be invested with, a general power of making inquiry into the private affairs of the citizen. Kilbourn v. Thompson, 103 U.S. 168, 190. We said in Boyd v. U.S., 116 U. S. 616, 630, 6 Sup. Ct. 524,¯and it cannot be too often repeated,¯that the principles that embody the essence of constitutional liberty and security forbid all invasions on the part of government and it’s employees of the sanctity of a man’s home and the privacies of his life.

As said by Mr. Justice Field in Re Pacific Ry. Commission, 32 Fed. 241, 250, ‘of all the rights of the citizen, few are of greater importance or more essential to his peace and happiness than the right of personal security, and that involves, not merely protection of his person from assault, but exemption of his private affairs, books, and papers from inspection and scrutiny of others. Without the enjoyment of this right, all others would lose half their value.’”

 

hahahahahahahahaha! score!

I am printing this and putting it in the envelope!



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Solbball wrote:
I recieved mine and I filled out all the information, which was not much at all. Please reconsider filling in all the information. I have been researching my family history and my husbands family history for several years now. The census has given me a look at who was living in the house, their ages, etc.  It would have been almost impossible to trace the families without the census.


I was thinking the same thing. I have also been doing some light family tree research and have found much of this info on the census in the past. Requesting this info is apparently not new.


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TheHatGuy wrote:
I gave all info. except phone number.

A lot of geaneological [sp] research is done from census records going back to the very first one.

Just a thought.



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There was a time that one could trust our government with the information ... not so sure anymore.

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CJ75056 wrote:
I just filled out number of people in the household and dropped it in the mailbox.

We did the same...



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I really do not understand why people think "geneology research" is sufficient motivation to answer any questions on the census beyond "who lives at this address?"

 



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I'm just curious what evil things people think the government is going to do by knowing my age and DOB? Not being snarky, genuinely curious.

 
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Lisa L wrote:
There was a time that one could trust our government with the information ... not so sure anymore.

Oh my ever lovin'....................

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I'm just curious what evil things people think the government is going to do by knowing my age and DOB? Not being snarky, genuinely curious.

The information will be used to compile the BIG LIST. You know, the one that “they” are going to use for a variety of sinister reasons including:

Disarming the American people.

Warrantless searches.

Rounding up people and placing them in detainment camps.

Confiscating private property.

Etc, etc...

OOGA, BOOGA, BOOGA!!!!!

 



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Binxter wrote:

I'm just curious what evil things people think the government is going to do by knowing my age and DOB? Not being snarky, genuinely curious.

The information will be used to compile the BIG LIST. You know, the one that “they” are going to use for a variety of sinister reasons including:

Disarming the American people.

Warrantless searches.

Rounding up people and placing them in detainment camps.

Confiscating private property.

Etc, etc...

OOGA, BOOGA, BOOGA!!!!!

 

 Yikes!  Really?



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Binxter,

I'm with you.  What is the big deal about answering all the questions.  All that info is out there already.  When I signed up my kids for school I included all the info that is on the census and more. When I go to the doctor they also have all the info.  So why the big worry about filling out a census?  Heck when I buy groceries and scan my discount card, the grocery store probably know more about me that the census does!!  Maybe I'm just not paranoid enough.

 
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So, if the Census form asks about the number of people in your house on April 1st.... how are you people filling out and sending in your forms already?

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I thought the same thing Random. What if (heaven forbid) something happens between now and then? What if a "student" moves out?

I sent mine in with all the info. I just hope we are all here on April 1 so that I did not tell a lie.

I figured they already have the info "race, name, etc" , so who cares.



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aj102996 wrote:

Binxter,

I'm with you.  What is the big deal about answering all the questions.  All that info is out there already.  When I signed up my kids for school I included all the info that is on the census and more. When I go to the doctor they also have all the info.  So why the big worry about filling out a census?  Heck when I buy groceries and scan my discount card, the grocery store probably know more about me that the census does!!  Maybe I'm just not paranoid enough.

Exactly. I mean they know all that and a whole lot more when I file my taxes every year.

 
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